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Old 09-27-2017, 06:44 PM   #1
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Default Bazzaz Z-AFM self mapper.

Hey guys. Just wondering if any of you are running the Bazzaz Z-AFM self mapper on your bike?

I bought the main module and the self mapper used for cheap off hayabusa.org. I just started using it with my 08 busa. I have only a few hours logged into it but I noticed with the new data the bike definitely runs smoother.


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Old 09-27-2017, 07:17 PM   #2
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Its a waste better off selling it and using the money to have your bike professionally tuned on a dyno. Thats what I did...

It will be smoother with the basic map it creates but it will be even better tuned on a dyno
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Old 09-28-2017, 07:45 AM   #3
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yeah, didn't bother here either. With the emissions equipment and the catalyst in the headers, unless I had a full system with the PAIR blockoff mod done I wouldn't do it. It's nice for altitude correction going from sea level to the mountains for me- but I don't need it to be smoother than it already is with just a tuned ZFi
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Old 09-29-2017, 07:59 AM   #4
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yeah, didn't bother here either. With the emissions equipment and the catalyst in the headers, unless I had a full system with the PAIR blockoff mod done I wouldn't do it. It's nice for altitude correction going from sea level to the mountains for me- but I don't need it to be smoother than it already is with just a tuned ZFi


That's what I have on my busa. I have a full system yosh r77. I have the paid block offs and I had the pair turned off when I flashed the ecu. I also have a bmc race filter.


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That's what I have on my busa. I have a full system yosh r77. I have the paid block offs and I had the pair turned off when I flashed the ecu. I also have a bmc race filter.


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Bazzaz makes good quality stuff, and the self mapping technology is pretty cool. You'll get an "ok" map just by riding around, but it will miss certain spots in the rev range since you'll blow through them faster than the mapper can collect and interpret data. If you were able to run it on a dyno, while being able to view the mapping screen on a monitor, you can create a very good custom map. Since that will allow you to see what zones were missed and hold the engine there for a extra moment.

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Bazzaz makes good quality stuff, and the self mapping technology is pretty cool. You'll get an "ok" map just by riding around, but it will miss certain spots in the rev range since you'll blow through them faster than the mapper can collect and interpret data. If you were able to run it on a dyno, while being able to view the mapping screen on a monitor, you can create a very good custom map. Since that will allow you to see what zones were missed and hold the engine there for a extra moment.

And don't listen to Chop. He's an angry little shit lately.
The best thing about the autotone is that you can target an AFR and keep it closed loop. This is probably best for the street and everyday use. For a racebike that's always being hammered, you really want open loop so the sudden changes don't cause overly rich or lean conditions.
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Bazzaz makes good quality stuff, and the self mapping technology is pretty cool. You'll get an "ok" map just by riding around, but it will miss certain spots in the rev range since you'll blow through them faster than the mapper can collect and interpret data. If you were able to run it on a dyno, while being able to view the mapping screen on a monitor, you can create a very good custom map. Since that will allow you to see what zones were missed and hold the engine there for a extra moment.

And don't listen to Chop. He's an angry little shit lately.


Yes this is what I've been reading. And this is the same thing that frank at powerhouse in NY said.



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Old 09-29-2017, 09:01 AM   #9
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The best thing about the autotone is that you can target an AFR and keep it closed loop. This is probably best for the street and everyday use. For a racebike that's always being hammered, you really want open loop so the sudden changes don't cause overly rich or lean conditions.


I set the target afr at 13.0 as that's what bazzaz suggest if you're street riding.


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And don't listen to Chop. He's an angry little shit lately.
You said basically the same thing as me... it’s okay but bring it to the dyno and it will be even better, smh


And I’m only angry because you stopped putting out for me lately
(And for the record I’ve actually been quite happy since my departure)

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