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Old 05-02-2017, 09:09 AM   #11
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No idea about freeze plugs or the like (I guess if it had them and they worked, there wouldn't be antifreeze in the oil?), but if you decide to cut bait and dump it as a parts bike, let me know...I already have a 07 speed triple that I love.

Good luck getting it fixed. Damn fun bikes.

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Yea, I'm not too familiar with how freeze plugs work, so I was looking for a little guidance. I think you can actually have coolant in the oil, if the freeze plugs do in fact pop.

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I will give you five American dollars for it, as is.

Seriously though, so the entire contents of you cooling system has come out along with the oil? I wouldn't write it off so fast, I'd put fresh oil and coolant(or even just water for now) in it and see if there are any visible leaks, if it runs, etc.
I wanted to see if there is anything I should do before firing it up. Luckily, I haven't hit the key or anything since last year so I'm hoping I can drain all of the fluids (what's left), look at the plugs and go from there. I'm afraid if i fill it with fluids and fire it up, I may cause more damage.

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I had this issue with my old gsxr 600. the freeze plugs in the head under the camshaft popped out. I bought news ones and solved the problem. You motor most likely is completely fine. Take you valve cover off and maybe remove the cam to look for the freeze plugs. I know it is not a jap motor but I would bet they are in the same spot.
I did a search and didnt see much info about the freeze plugs in Triumphs. I'm hoping like you said, they are like a Jap bike. One of these upcoming weekends I think I'll have to drop the motor, pull the head and take a look
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Old 05-02-2017, 09:11 AM   #12
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That's such a Kurtz thing to say

But in all seriousness if this is your street bike I wouldn't even hit the starter button until you've done a complete teardown/inspection. Only then can you assess if there are fractures in the head or water jacket. You may not need a whole new motor if it's just a cracked head. The heads are much cheaper on eBay than freight shipping a whole motor. If you're really really lucky and it's only a small crack you can probably have a machine shop weld it up and sand it down if it didn't hit a cylinder wall.

If you don't already have the FACTORY service manual I'd download a copy. The cooling system section should have a detail sketch of the coolant paths/jackets so you can see which parts you're going to have to disassemble and inspect.

If you want/need any help with tear down or inspection I'd be willing to lend a hand. Manchester isn't horribly far from me.
Luckily like I said above, I haven't hit the starter or anything. Also, I do have a copy of the manual so I think I'm going to pull the motor and then the head and see what's what.

I'll let you know if I need a hand
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Old 05-02-2017, 09:20 AM   #13
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Yea, I'm not too familiar with how freeze plugs work, so I was looking for a little guidance. I think you can actually have coolant in the oil, if the freeze plugs do in fact pop.

This is exactly why motors have freeze plugs. They are just little metal cups that get pushed out from expansion due to ice forming.
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What exactly did you put in as antifreeze?
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Old 05-02-2017, 12:48 PM   #15
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Check triumphrat forum. There are also speed triple specific forums. I agree with Kane, things are probably easily fixed as long as you dont cause more damage. When i said there shouldnt be mixing of fluids if the freeze plugs did their job, i was referring to external freeze plugs...but it sounds like mixing could occur with the ones Kane is talking about. If that happened, could be a very cheap repair if done without paying someone for labor
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Old 05-02-2017, 01:51 PM   #16
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What exactly did you put in as antifreeze?
This is what i used:



What I missed was the little sentence in the yellow

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Old 05-02-2017, 01:53 PM   #17
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Check triumphrat forum. There are also speed triple specific forums. I agree with Kane, things are probably easily fixed as long as you dont cause more damage. When i said there shouldnt be mixing of fluids if the freeze plugs did their job, i was referring to external freeze plugs...but it sounds like mixing could occur with the ones Kane is talking about. If that happened, could be a very cheap repair if done without paying someone for labor
The only plugs I've seen were the external ones too, I didn't even know about the internal ones. The plan is to pull the motor, take the head off and see what the deal is

Edit: Can anyone confirm that the Speed Triple had freeze plugs or not? My Google-fu is not strong today
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I just tried looking at some of the fiche's online but no luck and I have a meeting coming up, I'll try again later if I have the chance.
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How hard is it to pull the valve cover off? I would top off the coolant and pressure test the system to see where the leak is coming from. Pull the valve cover/spark plugs to help with the inspection
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whats the advantage to running that pink stuff?

I know on tracks would preffer water, but isn't your speedy strickly street?


Also I'm my terrible opinion, I would 1 try to locate every freeze plug and see if it popped and it it did, get it repaired/replaced, top of with fluids and see what happends, at least that way if it was just the plugs then her you fixed it and didn't blow your wad on a motor.
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