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Old 01-17-2018, 06:27 AM   #1
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Default Legality of building your own handgun

Hey all, looking into building my own glock 43. In particular this is the lower I was looking at:

http://www.glockstore.com/SS80-M-Model

I read through some of the blogs and seems that by written law it is legal to build and own without the need for a FFL or serial number. My question is pertaining to the carry piece. If you build your own can you legally carry this as an EDC or is this solely for keeping at the home and bringing to the range? If legal to carry what would happen if you get pulled over since no serial number?? Thanks
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Copy and pasted from some law site .

I found it informative.

" It is a firearm manufactured for personal use in compliance with 18 USC 922(r), Federal, State and local laws. Such firearms are made for personal use and are more-or-less untraceable as they are not required to be registered or serialized.

Hence the made-up term "Ghost Gun", a gun that is ephemeral, that doesn't exist in any form that can be traced or observed unless its owner chooses to reveal its existence.

The key to such guns is ALL laws must be followed. They cannot be manufactured for commercial sale as this requires an FFL07. They must not violate the National Firearms Act of 1934 in general. If the firearm is assembled using foreign made parts, it must comply with 18 USC 922(r) in order to be considered a "US Made" firearm. This is what knowledgeable builders refer to as the "10 or less game". Under 18 USC 922(r), a firearm can contain no more than 10 foreign-made parts out of a specific list of parts that make up a firearm per the BATFE.

And probably most importantly, the firearm must be assembled into a configuration that would otherwise be legal to possess and/or purchase in the state of the builder's residence. If a particular firearm is banned outright or in certain configurations (i.e. the AR-15 in some states), it is illegal to assemble or build the firearm into such a banned configuration. If the firearm is banned, it cannot be built, period.

If the firearm may ever be sold for personal reasons or made into an NFA configuration such as a short-barreled rifle, the receiver or frame MUST be engraved and serialized with the builder's information and a serial number. Personal non-NFA firearms that may find themselves sold have to have a serial number. It is generally recommended any personally-built firearm have some marking applied to it for identification in the event of inspection by law enforcement as most police officers are unaware is legal to do this. "
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Thanks, pretty similar to what i read but nothing clear about actually carrying. Not sure how that would work
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It is generally recommended any personally-built firearm have some marking applied to it for identification in the event of inspection by law enforcement as most police officers are unaware is legal to do this. "
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It is generally recommended any personally-built firearm have some marking applied to it for identification in the event of inspection by law enforcement as most police officers are unaware is legal to do this. "
Thats statement is kind of my point, very vague, is this in the event you are carrying the firearm or its in a case being transported to the range? And what is meant by markings? Very grey.........
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Its doeable. Its quite common. I can never be sold or transferred. But why? Especially on such a shitty platform. It would be cool if you wanted to build a bad ass custom gun, but a shitty plastic pocket gun?
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Its doeable. Its quite common. I can never be sold or transferred. But why? Especially on such a shitty platform. It would be cool if you wanted to build a bad ass custom gun, but a shitty plastic pocket gun?
You and I are at two different ends of the spectrum, Im average Joe with only a few handguns and personally love the glocks in all aspects and have always found them reliable in my use. Thats really all that matters for me. I figured this was a cheaper router to have a mild custom 43 versus buying factory then making my changes. Plus would be a fun project for me.
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You and I are at two different ends of the spectrum, Im average Joe with only a few handguns and personally love the glocks in all aspects and have always found them reliable in my use. Thats really all that matters for me. I figured this was a cheaper router to have a mild custom 43 versus buying factory then making my changes. Plus would be a fun project for me.

Have you looked up the prices of slides?
By the time you buy the lower parts kit, a slide, barrel and upper parts kit it's actuallly more money then the gun new. I had a full size 80 that I just ended up not milling and selling for this reason.
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I haven't fully priced it out yet but just assumed it would be cheaper, will look tonight. Were you looking at stock slide and barrel?
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Cheapest uncoated raw aftermarket slides were 200$ or more from brownells. Coated and done slides were 350-400 for full size. Lower parts kit was 50$ for stock trigger, then 30$ for locking blocks. That right there you can buy the gun new. Then add the upper parts kit and barrel.

Stock slides aren't easy to come by. The only way to make it worth it is if you find one used and cheap.

Btw glock store runs sales and a serialized glock full size lower was 50$ vs 150$ p80.

Again this is all fullsize stuff
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