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Old 06-27-2018, 10:37 AM   #451
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I never said he wasnít a winner. Heís also been on the best overall bike those years (didnít win when he had a less than best bike on the grid - lots of dumb unforced crashes) and had a subpar teammate that offers no true race to race competition. Doesnít make him a tactical racer. Heíd never be able to do what Nicky or Kenny Jr did. Which is fine... when he doesnít have any real competition.
Chris, I love you bro but I don't know what race series you've been watching. Also, Nicky won 3 races in his entire Motogp career. Marquez has done that every year he's been in the premier class. The racing is as close as it's ever been at the top 10 riders since the change to spec electronics. I think the last few years have had the most competitive fields and more different winners than in the last two decades. But that's just what I see.
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Old 06-27-2018, 12:18 PM   #452
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I think the point Chris is trying to make is that Marquez is very fast, but doesn't have a good head on his shoulders. As soon as someone on equivalent machinery starts challenging him every race, he's going to implode. Right now, Lorenzo winning races means very little. But, put him and Marquez on the same bike next year and if Lorenzo is still beating him, Marquez is gonna do dumb shit to try to stay ahead of him.
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Old 06-27-2018, 02:35 PM   #453
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I don't know how well Lorenthoo will do on that Honda. He needs a planted front tire to be confident. I can't see him saving 1/10th of the front end washouts that Marq does. He has trouble riding in the damp.
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Old 06-27-2018, 05:36 PM   #454
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Chris, I love you bro but I don't know what race series you've been watching. Also, Nicky won 3 races in his entire Motogp career. Marquez has done that every year he's been in the premier class. The racing is as close as it's ever been at the top 10 riders since the change to spec electronics. I think the last few years have had the most competitive fields and more different winners than in the last two decades. But that's just what I see.
competition is some of the strongest it's ever been. In 2016 his bike was certainly not the best on the grid and he still pulled it out. I'll give it to you that he does make bonehead mistakes sometimes, but he's clearly one of the best riders ever.
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That was one hell of a race!
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Old 07-01-2018, 10:02 AM   #456
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Fucking phenomenal race. Unreal.
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That was the best race of the year. Heart was pounding that whole time. Was excited to post, but now I'm just bummed thinking about seeing Dan at MotoGP. Him and Nicky will be tearing it up together now.
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I never said he wasnít a winner. Heís also been on the best overall bike those years (didnít win when he had a less than best bike on the grid - lots of dumb unforced crashes) and had a subpar teammate that offers no true race to race competition. Doesnít make him a tactical racer. Heíd never be able to do what Nicky or Kenny Jr did. Which is fine... when he doesnít have any real competition.
8 guys mixing it up in the craziest gp Iíve ever seen and Marc didnít flinch even after rins ballsy pass. Marc didnt lose his cool or make unforced errors and when the last lap came he said weíll see ya losers. How much evidence do we need that Marc is a step above everyone else regardless of what he riding.
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8 guys mixing it up in the craziest gp Iíve ever seen and Marc didnít flinch even after rins ballsy pass. Marc didnt lose his cool or make unforced errors and when the last lap came he said weíll see ya losers. How much evidence do we need that Marc is a step above everyone else regardless of what he riding.
He tried to make a pretty risky pass on Lorenzo at some point relatively early in the race. The announcers were losing their shit (BTSports) because apparently he was on the slippery stuff or whatever. If that had gone sideways, you'd be singing a different tune right now.
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It didn’t so it doesn’t matter
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