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    Had a few questions for the racers that I couldn't find on the PRS website. I would like to get my race license in August to start participating in the Friday practices so I can start learning Loudon (I know there's only a couple of race weekends left after that but this is mainly for next year). Seems like a better alternative to an actual track day at Loudon for someone with a bit of track day experience already.

    Do you have to race-prep your bike if you're just doing the Friday practice (i.e. no coolant, belly pan, safety wiring, etc.)? That would be my biggest turn-off to doing practices this year (instead of waiting until next year) since that would be a fairly significant undertaking on my bike. Also, what is the "on-track" time compared to a normal track day with 7, 15 minute sessions?

    Also also, how many racers here purchase the LTF Practice package through PRS? It seems like a pretty good deal getting 7 practices included in the package price.


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    To do racer practice you have to have your license.

    To get your license you must have participated and completed the rookie race.

    To do the rookie race you must be have an LRRS teched bike.

    So, yes you must fully prep your bike.

    That said, why not just do track experience with penguin on fridays. No racing involved. If the only thing you want is track time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by isaac_ View Post
    To do racer practice you have to have your license.

    To get your license you must have participated and completed the rookie race.

    To do the rookie race you must be have an LRRS teched bike.

    So, yes you must fully prep your bike.

    That said, why not just do track experience with penguin on fridays. No racing involved. If the only thing you want is track time.
    This. Either do track experience, or the basic course. Track experience for track time, basic course to learn about racing and get your license.

    The tech requirements are much more lax than LRRS. Check them here: http://www.penguinracing.com/Equipment-Requirements but like Isaac said, you can't do race practice without completing the rookie race, which will require you to follow LRRS tech requirements.
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    Anyone of us racers can race prep your bike in 10min or less lol. Seriously just ask and we can give you a hand

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    Also, with your license, you can do the Thursday racer practices that are hosted by LRRS and super cheap in comparison. After a few penguins, when you've heard the logistics, and key markers etc, thursdays are good for track time, but you're on your own for "Learning"

    As for prep. next time you do an oil change, drill the drain bolt and wire the filter. any time you have to touch something for maintenance, mark it and drill it. if you don;t already have one, Harbor Freight has their drill press on sale right now for like $60. you'll save that much in drill bits compared to doing it free hand. use a punch to mark it, Slow speed, lots of lube

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    Also, make sure you have bit of a racer mentality if you are doing racer practice. It's not a track day experience most times.

    It's really pretty easy going thru the basic school with Steve N. guiding you along.
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    Alternative: borrow someones race bike and do the rookie race. Then use your bike for practices.

    I have practiced without numbers, bellypan, and some safety wire missing, but I wouldnt recommend going out with coolant in the bike.

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    Coolant is a no-no for racer practice.

    Also, if your bike is an FZR600 as indicated by your profile, it's CAKE to race prep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by isaac_ View Post
    To do racer practice you have to have your license.

    To get your license you must have participated and completed the rookie race.

    To do the rookie race you must be have an LRRS teched bike.

    So, yes you must fully prep your bike.

    That said, why not just do track experience with penguin on fridays. No racing involved. If the only thing you want is track time.
    The reason I asked is because apparently the website said something different:

    "The Rookie Race is not part of the Friday school. Your school certificate allows you to get a race license any time in the following 12 months from the date of the school. You will ride the Rookie Race only after you buy a race license and enter a regular race. If you do not decide to race, then the Rookie Race is not something that you need to worry about."

    "Preparing a motorcycle to race is quite different from preparing a motorcycle for the school, which can be typically be done in less than an hour. Riders do NOT need to race prepare their motorcycle to participate in the Basic course or in the Penguin NESBC events. All riders who wish to compete with LRRS should race prepare their bike prior to coming to the track, as it takes a few hours the first time."


    The goal was to save some money for track time at Loudon ($135 for Friday vs $250 for a "track experience" day) since it's getting to the point where I don't need all of the structure of a track day. I'm considering joining up with some guys that race in USCRA on FZRs next year and the USCRA license doesn't extend to LRRS but it does the other way.

    Quote Originally Posted by BMMCBR600RR View Post
    The tech requirements are much more lax than LRRS. Check them here: http://www.penguinracing.com/Equipment-Requirements but like Isaac said, you can't do race practice without completing the rookie race, which will require you to follow LRRS tech requirements.
    See above?

    Quote Originally Posted by MFChop View Post
    Anyone of us racers can race prep your bike in 10min or less lol. Seriously just ask and we can give you a hand
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    Coolant is a no-no for racer practice.

    Also, if your bike is an FZR600 as indicated by your profile, it's CAKE to race prep.
    Oh, I thought it'd be a bit more difficult since you're having to cross-drill the wheel bolts and caliper bolts. I have a drill press but it'd still require taking the wheels and brakes off (which I supposed isn't that hard )

    Quote Originally Posted by Tas View Post
    Also, make sure you have bit of a racer mentality if you are doing racer practice. It's not a track day experience most times.
    Understood, I'm sure it'll be a bit of a transition being passed on the inside/not being given as much room as a track day.


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    In order to do the rookie race you have to have a lrrs prepped bike. In order to take the course you don't have to. In order to get the race license in order to do racer practice you have to do the rookie race. Therefore racer practice means lrrs prepped bike.
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